Hi – I was wondering what you base your buying prices on. I assume that we would be getting less if we went this route, but at the same time, with cost/time involved in preparing the house to sell (we have 7 kids), it could take years for us to get it done. Is there a way to get an estimate w/o cost?
This is a great question from a potential seller. How does a Real Estate Investor arrive at the price that they will offer on a house?
Well first we are going to take a look at your neighborhood and see what houses are selling for in your area. We want to look at houses that are the same size and style in terms of square footage, age, basements, bathrooms, bedrooms, garage stalls etc. We want to see what the perfect house that has been all updated for today’s modern standards has sold for in the recent past and what they are currently priced at if they have not yet sold.
If we can’t find any fixed up houses in the past 6 months we might go back a year or look at average lived in homes that have sold and adjust prices accordingly.
So that is our first number. After repaired value.
Next we want to see what we are going to need to do to your house to bring it to that perfect fixed up condition. That means the roof, furnace, air conditioner, and hot water heater probably need to be replaced if yours are older than 10 years old. Windows probably need to be replaced if they are not double pane thermal windows. That means if you have not updated a kitchen or bathroom in the past 10 years, more than likely we will need to make updates there and if it is over 20 years old, we may need to completely replace it.
And for the most part every house needs fresh paint inside and out, new carpeting, tile in the entries and bathrooms, and hardwoods refinished if they are present in a house. Plus all the usual suspects: new light fixtures, outlet covers, knobs, etc. We also trim trees, clean up landscaping and fix anything else that might be an issue: siding, decks, foundations, drain lines, electrical updates, driveways, etc.
We go through and make a list of items to repair and estimate the costs. This is our second number. Repairs.
Then we have to consider a third number, holding costs. This will be what we would spend between the time we buy your house and the time we finally sell it to a new owner, on upkeep, utilities, maintenance and insurance. We usually figure at least 4 months time and about $200 in utilities per month, $100 in insurance per month, and then snow removal or lawn mows as needed. One more number in this area is how much we accrue in real estate property taxes per month, so what ever your taxes are, divide that by 12.
Our fourth number we consider is what is it going to cost us to sell your house. On average we have a 6% commission to a Realtor at a minimum. If we do not replace the furnace, AC, and hot water heater, we are going to have about $400 in a home warranty for the new buyers. We will have fees to buy from you and to sell to the new buyer at the title company, we figure about 1% of the total sale price. And in today’s economy, we often have to pay 3% of the end sales price in the end buyer’s closing costs.
Our last number is our profit. If we are going to buy your house, then take about a month to renovated it, another month or two to find a buyer, then another month to get the house closed, we need to make some money to pay our bills. We have a house payment, utilities, cars, kids, and groceries just like you. So on average we shoot to earn about 20% of the end sales price. This is usually somewhere around $25,000.
So heres what the formula looks like:
After Repaired Value – Repairs – Holding Costs – Selling Costs – Profit = What We Pay.
So to put some numbers in it for the typcial house we have been buying recently:
$150,000 ARV
- $40,000 Repairs
-$ 1,500 Holding Costs
- $15,000 Selling Costs
- $22,000 Profit
We can pay $71,500 on this example.
We have all the same expenses that you do with the added cost of needing to earn something for our efforts.
You will find that most real estate investors who are going to pay you all cash up front are going to pay about the same as us. You may find a few investors who are not cash buyers who want you to hold the loan, meaning you move out, and they make you payments over time. They may pay more in price, but you are not going to be getting much cash in your pocket up front. You get paid out when they finally sell.
So thats it in a nutshell. If you are selling a house in the Kansas City market and want to know what we will offer, you can pretty much work it out. As our person in the question points out that the time and effort in getting a house ready to sell around your live and in her case 7 kids can be tough. We know as we usually have a crew of 4 to 7 people working in the house for 40-60 hours a week for 3-6 weeks. Working with an investor buyer can be a great option, but it is a trade off in price.
Do you have to get your house as ready to sell as we do? No, but we have found that the average house not only sells for a lot less than a perfect house, they also take a lot longer to sell unless the price is considerably lower. And you still have the Realtor commissions in most cases and the selling costs in most cases. If you are in the Kansas City area and want to see what a Realtor would tell you about getting your house ready to sell and what they would sell it for, give us a call. We are Realtors and have our own Company. And while we personally do not want to list your house, we have agents who work for us listing and selling our houses that would love to assist you.
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